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    Easy way to get almost all books in no time.

    Not sure if this is known or if this is either a bug or a feature, but:

    If you activate a clear quest in the victorian house (or any other PoI with random loot), then you quit and log back in, the quest will be cancelled but you can start it over and different books will be on the shelves?
    Loot the books without killing all the "clear" quest monsters, log out, log in, start the quest, loot... rinse and repeat.
    There seem to be "sets" of books, perhaps 3-4 sets, where each one has specific books available.
    After doing this trick ~10 times you get all the variety you can, for this particular quest location.
    Just get another one where the target location has books or whatever loot you prioritize and do it all over.
    Between the church library and the school, I have managed to gather around 90% of all skill/recipe books.
    Last edited by Blasphemous; 02-10-2020, 05:45 PM.

    #2
    CM is way faster.

    Cheers

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      #3
      Originally posted by Blasphemous View Post
      Not sure if this is known or if this is either a bug or a feature, but:

      If you activate a clear quest in the victorian house (or any other PoI with random loot), then you quit and log back in, the quest will be cancelled but you can start it over and different books will be on the shelves?
      Loot the books without killing all the "clear" quest monsters, log out, log in, start the quest, loot... rinse and repeat.
      There seem to be "sets" of books, perhaps 3-4 sets, where each one has specific books available.
      After doing this trick ~10 times you get all the variety you can, for this particular quest location.
      Just get another one where the target location has books or whatever loot you prioritize and do it all over.
      Between the church library and the school, I have managed to gather around 90% of all skill/recipe books.
      The relog restart of quests is a known "limitation" of the quest system. I suspect there currently is no way to save the status of ongoing quests. And that would mean the alternative would be failing the quest at logout.

      Personally I would consider constant relogging being similar to save scumming in RPGs. In SP one could as well use the creative menue and simply get all the recipes.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Blasphemous View Post
        Not sure if this is known or if this is either a bug or a feature, but:

        If you activate a clear quest in the victorian house (or any other PoI with random loot), then you quit and log back in, the quest will be cancelled but you can start it over and different books will be on the shelves?
        Loot the books without killing all the "clear" quest monsters, log out, log in, start the quest, loot... rinse and repeat.
        There seem to be "sets" of books, perhaps 3-4 sets, where each one has specific books available.
        After doing this trick ~10 times you get all the variety you can, for this particular quest location.
        Just get another one where the target location has books or whatever loot you prioritize and do it all over.
        Between the church library and the school, I have managed to gather around 90% of all skill/recipe books.
        There are no sets. A bookshelf has equal odds of dropping any book regardless of what POI that bookshelf is in so no need to change POI's.

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          #5
          Resetting POIs to get double loot is already walking a slim line between cheat and cheese. Still, going further to reset without clearing the whole POI?

          I could argue that going through the whole building and clearing it to reset is similar to finding the same POI nearby and doing it again, mainly because you still go through the whole POI, not just the "convenient" parts. Wouldn't mind if they fixed it, although i guess it's similar to having loot respawn in 30 days or zombies respawn after some time in cleared POIs.

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            #6
            What sucks is logging out almost at the end of a T5 quest only to find out you have to start it all over again. That first time stings.

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              #7
              This has been the case since at least A17 but it's pretty cheaty. Even then, this isn't a great way to get all the books. You'd have to spend hours and hours and hours and hours doing this same house over and over to get all the books this way. If you're that dedicated to cheesing the game this hard you might as well just spawn in the books because this would get extremely boring pretty quickly I imagine.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Blasphemous View Post
                Not sure if this is known or if this is either a bug or a feature, but:

                If you activate a clear quest in the victorian house (or any other PoI with random loot), then you quit and log back in, the quest will be cancelled but you can start it over and different books will be on the shelves?
                Loot the books without killing all the "clear" quest monsters, log out, log in, start the quest, loot... rinse and repeat.
                There seem to be "sets" of books, perhaps 3-4 sets, where each one has specific books available.
                After doing this trick ~10 times you get all the variety you can, for this particular quest location.
                Just get another one where the target location has books or whatever loot you prioritize and do it all over.
                Between the church library and the school, I have managed to gather around 90% of all skill/recipe books.
                Why not just enable creative mode and spawn them all in? Would be faster for you.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Odetta View Post
                  What sucks is logging out almost at the end of a T5 quest only to find out you have to start it all over again. That first time stings.
                  You only do this error once fortunaly and at best you see it in an earlier quest.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Khulkhuum View Post
                    Resetting POIs to get double loot is already walking a slim line between cheat and cheese.
                    Later in game you might not even be able to avoid that, because when coming to T4 and T5 quests, often the pois which can provide these quests are very limited and you will get quests in the same (few) pois over and over again.

                    The trader quests made looting random pois completely useless. Why just loot a poi if you can loot a poi AND finish a quest with additional reward?

                    Either the game should save which poi was already done as a quest and never give it again, what means that one time you won't get any more quests because they are all done, or it should at least add a cooldown for each quest-poi before you can get a quest there again... like the loot respawn time.

                    Or maybe the poi is reset at quest start but without any loot AND it is reset again when the quest is finished, then again with loot inside. So that you are limited to either do a quest OR loot a building. Maybe also the poi-state before starting the quest should be stored and afterwards the poi is reset back to that state instead of being reset to its vanilla state.
                    Last edited by Liesel Weppen; 02-11-2020, 04:31 PM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Liesel Weppen View Post
                      Or maybe the poi is reset at quest start but without any loot AND it is reset again when the quest is finished, then again with loot inside. So that you are limited to either do a quest OR loot a building. Maybe also the poi-state before starting the quest should be stored and afterwards the poi is reset back to that state instead of being reset to its vanilla state.
                      When I do a T5 quest, loot is often no longer relevant to me. Ressources matters more to me. The apartment building for example has many beds that I can harvest to get springs. In the hospital and the factories I can get a lot of polymers from the cardboard boxes and the blinds. I also get a lot of paper from the cardbord boxes.

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                        #12
                        If you're gonna cheat why not just CM them in? You're only fooling yourself ya know....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RipClaw View Post
                          When I do a T5 quest, loot is often no longer relevant to me. Ressources matters more to me. The apartment building for example has many beds that I can harvest to get springs. In the hospital and the factories I can get a lot of polymers from the cardboard boxes and the blinds. I also get a lot of paper from the cardbord boxes.
                          I count ressources as loot, too. Especially you can get lots of brass that way by just harvesting the cars in the parkinglot in front of the big POIs.

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                            #14
                            If I was admin of a server and caught someone doing this I would ban them immediately and if you are SP then just use the creative menu.

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                              #15
                              Well, CM is another thing to me.
                              The way I described still seems to be within reasonable limits of gameplay and I don't consider this outright cheating.
                              I don't get any advantage through third party means that I wouldn't be able to get through normal gameplay.
                              But I digress, neither is it actually that relevant, nor that time consuming.
                              An hour of this in real time was enough to max out quite a few skills.
                              My problem with using CM instead is that I won't be able to bring myself to stop there, I'll add ammo and tier 6 stuff afterwards and that would be very boring.
                              It's cheesy but so is driving away from the horde or spending the horde night on the roof of an apartment building or a factory doing nothing.

                              Anyway, somehow this doesn't feel like such a huge abuse to me but I understand that people have different opinions

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