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Please read ENTIRE THREAD & COMMENTS (Edited main post because it seems people get lost in the detail, see other pages for better descriptions, and to everyone saying the game is about zombies - technically it states very clearly when you open the game that it is a "Survival Horde Crafting Game" thus we can define the horde as we want to and, as the developers have stated themselves, there are no rules to this particular sandbox game)

 

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ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE DEVS: Why assume that we desire the game's water mechanics to be ultra realistic?

Why not create an unmoddable (we can change anything about it) ocean area where we can see your artistic side and rather than CREATE, we can EXPLORE and SEE (Experience) and it would be the perfect place to create lore for the game IMO)

 

To view this topic on steam:

 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/0/3491891042518015290/

 

To view on reddit:

 

https://www.reddit.com/user/Jacquesdv14/comments/btjel0/underwater_worldspace_adventureother_ideas_the/

 

Important question to the devs: Would you consider making the game open source if you finished it so that the modding community can take over?

 

Imagine ocean, beaches, islands, tropical fruits, tropical animals and maybe even an Atlantis type of scenario where we could craft scuba gear and explore the endless possibilities of an aquatic world. Obviously fish is a no brainer and sharks/crocodiles (obviously fresh water vs salt water difference) could keep you in check. Heck, I wouldn't mind finding advanced civilizations with "bio enhancements".

 

Imagine then trying to create some lore (it might start to sound similar to No Mans Sky) but it is 2019 and even Call Of Duty has copied the battle royale. Stop trying to fit the original packaging when you have hardcore and dedicated fans STILL playing and believing in this game. Break the rules, adjust other rules, and most of all..give us a beautiful sandbox game, the only thing we really care about. I still recommend this game to so many people and speak highly of it. Why not start thinking about adding Sims like house editing in it.. patch the game so you can see where your players actually spend most of their time rather than assuming it. I'll gladly allow you to monitor my gameplay because I believe in this game and what it could become.

 

Why are there no cows? horses? sheep? cattle? SO many possibilities to become the game of the century???

 

It might look like I haven't spent so much time in the game but I'm a pirate first, a player second and I ended up buying a 4 pack of this game a while back to get my friends to join me. We recently started playing again and although I'm having fun.. I still see so much unexplored potential..why not look into which mods people download and maybe consider adding them the game? If you have proper NPC's you can start a town and have them manage the farming and protection..maybe even raid groups with NPC's.

 

Stop fixing light rays and start fixing the game "experience" (not just gameplay because that is well polished in my opinion) you deserve to release paid DLC's because you haven't asked for it in six years. I'll gladly buy it if these features are added.

 

Brief Summary Thus far:

 

*Scuba activities and everything related to it (Page 3)

 

*Atlantis (or similar underwater world, Navezgane could remain mostly static but the location of the underwater

world biome can be dynamic everytime.)

 

*Consider placing "Atlantis" in the "Bermuda Triangle" with the Kraken??

 

*Proper sailboat because why just settle for a raft when, realistically we can already craft more complicated

things in the game.

 

*solar panels especially for water worlds and to not have to get fuel all the time, wear and tear on the panels

for constant replacement

 

*Space Adventures and Aliens (Including a massive requirements to build the rocket as to keep the grinding of

resources fun because there is an end goal) could be regarded as an intelligent species so that we have a horde on both sides of the spectrum.

 

*Add Cave systems in Forest biome, Castle where the barbarians of the world before remain/lived in snow

biome, Egypt like tombs in desert biome, bunkers in wasteland/fallout biome?

 

*Create a main story (maybe multiple endings) to create lore and move to a more RPG style game? and use

current quest system as base for cool side quests?

 

*Call of duty type of game mechanics and handling with battlefield physics for bullet drops (look at warthunder

before you say physics is complicated, they managed to get a heck of a ton right somehow)

 

*Hang glider (like far Cry 2)/ zip line system (like The Forest)

 

*PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Fruit trees and Vegetables with many different recipes and buffs (major turn on from

the game, and easy to implement)

 

*Add bosses for each biome, part of story/lore (mutated animals/people/zombies) to keep it fun

 

*Maybe railway system with ability to build train to move between bases in different biomes (above and below

ground)

 

*Hot air balloons?? Plains?? (if bringing in space adventures)

 

*Maybe be able to build a city/base on which you can attach hot air balloon to make it float? or Moving? (Mortal

Engines vibes)

 

*Coral reefs for scuba diving and the ability to create your own reefs (we just recently managed to do that in

real life, read up about it)

 

*Consider making a second world map to please the people who like the game as it is, and a new one, for the

dreamers ;)

 

*Switch between third (when running) and first person (When aiming) (Like Assassins Creed)

 

*The ability to create a city with NPC's which run farms, building, resource gathering, going on raids with you

etc etc etc

 

*Animal Companion System (Getting a dog or cat, can't be infected and helps scout/attack zombies with

backpack and armor etc etc

 

*Tractor for large scale farming (especially if cities with NPC's gets implemented to feed everyone)

 

*Obviously other farming equipment would be cool if it gets implemented.

 

*Guilds for large server usage so the need for constant Party Invites can disappear, maybe even guild vault in a

secure bank with valuable loot (Constantly reinforcing the idea of having a city with NPC's that can protect the

bank against other raiding players with their NPC's with them)

 

*The Sims like house editing features to really create an astounding home/base/city with the beautiful graphics

of this sandbox game

 

*Ability to make different alcohols like vodka, rum, whiskey and Gin (different Gin dependings on which fruits

you use as you can use A LOT of different fruits to make gin, each with own buffs and stuff)

 

*More block types, just look at Minecraft (Wool from sheep and leather couches/furniture is a good start ;),

anything to decorate more, to really make the game personal)

 

*Airdrop Flares so that people who leave the markers off can see the direction of the crate and make a quick in

game marker in the general direction

 

*Have to press "E" (collect button) to remove seeds from ground after planting them yourself to avoid

accidental removal on the ground and just make farming a lot easier

 

*Press "R" when opening chest to automatically dump "extra" inventory in chests, keep items on toolbelt and in

"selected" blocks in your inventory, rest gets sorted into chest by either adding to other stacks or using a new

block in the chest

 

*add "scenarios" (like the old school age of empires fans know) where you can play as different people

before/after the nuclear fallout to learn backstory (another opportunity to create lore, without actually

affecting the "no rules" in Navezgane

 

*underground wiring using wiring tool to bridge wired connections in a small city neatly

 

*TNT mining, as in real life and minecraft.

 

*Make a fully RPG map to give the flesh to the lore side, also will attract a completely new set of gamers and

give old ones so replay ability

 

*Easier to build guns, customize them, and use them (maybe even name them - borderlands style)

 

PLEASE COMMENT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS THAT I CAN ADD, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE!

 

Sincere Regards,

Jacques and BodyBagger (Page 3 for his post on scuba or https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/0/3247562523072540746/ to view it on steam)

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dude, i'm sorry but just no.

i read the whole article and you put much effort and thinking into it.

but does it sound like 7 Days? definitely not. what you're asking for is a whole new game.

none of this has anything to do with a zombie apocalypse, but rather subnautica (i guess - never played it).

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Hm, funny idea to have more under water POIs.

 

So I why not spend 15 minutes and just implement that in NitroGen:

 

"Sunken World Scenario"

 

all POIs are submerged in water (except mountain huts)

gives the player a reason to use the swimming ability a bit more.

 

https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?114207-Tool-NITROGEN-a-random-world-generator-for-7DtD

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Adding new biomes with new everything (blocks, items, creatures, vehicles) a few times a year would certainly be good way to keep people interested in the game over a long period of time. I remember that exploring all the different biomes was mighty impressive when I first played the game. After that, settling in each one of them kept my interest.

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Hm, funny idea to have more under water POIs.

 

So I why not spend 15 minutes and just implement that in NitroGen:

 

"Sunken World Scenario"

 

all POIs are submerged in water (except mountain huts)

gives the player a reason to use the swimming ability a bit more.

Nice indeed. This tool should be part of the game and easy to control with a few sliders. Cuz - get yer torches and pitchforks ready, y'all diligent nerdos - I'm not downloading that third party tool and learn how to use it. My loss, of course, but also that of the company, as more neat features are a great method to make one's product more interesting.
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Once you get it running, all you need to do is hit the generate-wold button and wait 3 minutes for the generation to get a decent (singpleplayer/Coop) 8K map. Copy it to the 7DTD generated world folder, and you are done.

(there are buttons that can open both the gen and 7DtD folders for convenience)

 

All the options are optional to tweak around, or make a fully custom map ... but the default setting should be enough if you just want a nice map.

 

Of course a generator included into the game will be the convenient default for most players. But NitroGen takes a different approach and lets you choose how the world should look like beforehand. The included RWG is using a single seed and map size as parameters (that can be shared to others on the other hand).

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The algorithm keeps most POIs are relatively close to the shore (crossing a big lake would not be fun).

 

The POIs are only flooded in their lower levels, a completely submerged POI would be overkill. You basically jump from roof to roof in this scenario.

 

Of course there are still bugs with the way water is distributed. But thats an issue that hopefully gets solved later in the game.

 

Its quite fun when you are looting the top floor and the zombies suddenly come up the stairs out of the water.

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This guy.. I like this guy. it doesn't have to be specifically what I and BodyBagger said..just some flair every six months to keep people interested.. That's what minecraft, No Man's Sky and so many other games have done. It doesn't matter what they implement, as long as they implement it..Light rays, for example, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about.. I stare at it for 2 seconds and continue PLAYING the GAME and ...to be honest, if they don't have drastic changes soon they might lose all their HARDCORE fans.

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Adding new biomes with new everything (blocks, items, creatures, vehicles) a few times a year would certainly be good way to keep people interested in the game over a long period of time. I remember that exploring all the different biomes was mighty impressive when I first played the game. After that, settling in each one of them kept my interest.

 

"This guy.. I like this guy." that reply was meant for you. I'm still learning how the forum works. Sorry XD

 

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Ok, but what about space OP? Creating space programs, assembling and launching rockets, rocket fuel researching, sending satellites into orbit, landing on Mars, mapping black holes, colonizing other galaxies?

 

And like, you were probably sarcastic but why not? rather than bashing on the creative process (as I said in another reply that I don't care what they implement as long as the game is going somewhere0 Just add ideas of what YOU would really want in the game.

 

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I agree that some love to the underwater biome would be cool. I'm not sure they will go as far as you outlined but at least some submerged POI's and some gear would be welcome.

 

Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback. It is two guys ideas in one post, His name is BodyBagger. We just want to give ideas to the developers because all in all, it would be nice after six years if they could maybe post a vision on "Road To Beta" and then "Road to Final" so we know if it is worth dedicating a lot of time to the game..you understand?

 

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:) no...

play another game....

 

 

I would say that maybe some mods could do this in the future, but water physics is not suitable for this at all.

 

Well your only criticism is something that we know thy are working on fixing. So rather give ideas on what YOU want to see in the game in the next three years? maybe they just need some creative inspiration and to see that the community, still care about the game, even after all this time.

 

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dude, i'm sorry but just no.

i read the whole article and you put much effort and thinking into it.

but does it sound like 7 Days? definitely not. what you're asking for is a whole new game.

none of this has anything to do with a zombie apocalypse, but rather subnautica (i guess - never played it).

 

Juyst look at minecrafts evolution and No Man's Sky and muliple other games, what would YOU like to see in the game in the future or do you classify the game as perfect and never expect any changes anymore?

 

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As awesome as that submerged world appears, it would suck mightily with the current state of "swimming" and water physics...

 

But it does show the potential.

 

and if a fan could achieve this, why not the developers? the game has only recently not been "too broken" rather add something broken so we as a community can help them perfect it while having fun and seeing new content.

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Ok, but what about space OP? Creating space programs, assembling and launching rockets, rocket fuel researching, sending satellites into orbit, landing on Mars, mapping black holes, colonizing other galaxies?

 

and just imagine how much would it be to collect ALL the parts to actually build those things and recreate humanity up to the stage it was before the apocalypse and then being able to go to space and facing aliens there or something. it would be the best game ever IMO.

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That would be Empyrion. :p

 

and stop thinking that copying or mimicking another game is wrong. We live in 2019 where there are like a thousand battle royales out after PUBG (even COD and Battlefield) and people still buy different games because the FEEL different and still are different in their own way. 7D2D feels amazing to me and I really think that they can go for the game of the century with the right vision. Heck 7 years in beta would be worth it if we get get crazy content like this.

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and stop thinking that copying or mimicking another game is wrong. We live in 2019 where there are like a thousand battle royales out after PUBG (even COD and Battlefield) and people still buy different games because the FEEL different and still are different in their own way. 7D2D feels amazing to me and I really think that they can go for the game of the century with the right vision. Heck 7 years in beta would be worth it if we get get crazy content like this.

 

And just think about how nice the bio human enhancements from "Atlantis" would link up with the space battles ;). Like why can't the underwater world be where the last efforts of humanity survived and maybe is thriving because a lot of really smart people live there. And then you get to learn about what caused everything and now you get to take humanity further? It is just ideas but I'm already excited just thinking about it. Then you kinda write the story from now on if that makes sense?

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[...]

Juyst look at minecrafts evolution and No Man's Sky and muliple other games, what would YOU like to see in the game in the future or do you classify the game as perfect and never expect any changes anymore?

[...]

 

No i don't classify it as perfect. it's in alpha after all :) but tbh i already like the game a lot. paid about 10€ when it was in sale and got over 1200 hours out of it and still counting. there are funny mods that change the gameplay a lot but i always find myself return to vanilla.

sure there are things i'd like to see. for example, some way to get fish as an alternative to meat and more food recipes. but i think adding too much stuff (like the whole underwater exploring thing) would not only be beneficial to the game but would bloat it too much. sure i'd like to see some scuba gear so i can stay under water longer. but what is the point of being under water anyway except going for treasures maybe.

i'd rather see the current aspects of the game to be fleshed out than implementing new mechanics that would fit other games better.

the comparison to minecraft is totally fine, but as far as i understand it, the waterphysics aren't capable of handling what you want. did you ever try to build under water? it's a nightmare. as you can see with nitrogen it is possible to submerge buildings, but it doesnt make good gameplay atm since the water is so buggy and zombies cant swim, so you could float at the surface and be safe from any danger.

 

nothing against new things, but you just described them in such detail that it could fill a whole game on its own (e.g. subnautica).

there is no all in one game out there. and this is about zombies.

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No i don't classify it as perfect. it's in alpha after all :) but tbh i already like the game a lot. paid about 10€ when it was in sale and got over 1200 hours out of it and still counting. there are funny mods that change the gameplay a lot but i always find myself return to vanilla.

sure there are things i'd like to see. for example, some way to get fish as an alternative to meat and more food recipes. but i think adding too much stuff (like the whole underwater exploring thing) would not only be beneficial to the game but would bloat it too much. sure i'd like to see some scuba gear so i can stay under water longer. but what is the point of being under water anyway except going for treasures maybe.

i'd rather see the current aspects of the game to be fleshed out than implementing new mechanics that would fit other games better.

the comparison to minecraft is totally fine, but as far as i understand it, the waterphysics aren't capable of handling what you want. did you ever try to build under water? it's a nightmare. as you can see with nitrogen it is possible to submerge buildings, but it doesnt make good gameplay atm since the water is so buggy and zombies cant swim, so you could float at the surface and be safe from any danger.

 

nothing against new things, but you just described them in such detail that it could fill a whole game on its own (e.g. subnautica).

there is no all in one game out there. and this is about zombies.

 

I get what you are saying. But don't you think it is about survival rather than zombies? because at a stage you become so powerful the zombies just aren't a threat anymore, then you need some new highly intelligent species to survive against? maybe the aliens caused the zombie outbreak so they could easily takeover the world by using us against us? if that makes sense. even League of Legends implemented lore waayyy later in their development and at first a lot of people thought it was stupid but after years they somehow semi made it work. It is a sandbox game and why can't there be one "super" sandbox game that actually goes the extra mile? I just think that a game like that would go down in history. and so many people have the game..if they did stuff like this it could be the greatest comeback of a community EVER.

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I get what you are saying. But don't you think it is about survival rather than zombies? because at a stage you become so powerful the zombies just aren't a threat anymore, then you need some new highly intelligent species to survive against? maybe the aliens caused the zombie outbreak so they could easily takeover the world by using us against us? if that makes sense. even League of Legends implemented lore waayyy later in their development and at first a lot of people thought it was stupid but after years they somehow semi made it work. It is a sandbox game and why can't there be one "super" sandbox game that actually goes the extra mile? I just think that a game like that would go down in history. and so many people have the game..if they did stuff like this it could be the greatest comeback of a community EVER.

 

and I am also a vanilla fan, that's why I don't want mods.. I want it to be official, so I'm trying my best to get to the developers themselves

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[...] It is a sandbox game and why can't there be one "super" sandbox game that actually goes the extra mile? [...]

 

Performance is the big thing here. there are quite some limitations to a voxelgame. and to one with such nice graphics especially. just compare it to minecraft - 7 Days looks so much better. But it comes at a cost. and i get that you want to extend the lategame as atm there isn't much to to. that's why a frequently start over with a new save, a new world and new building ideas. new ruleset (sometimes rules that i just put on myself as "dont put any skillpoints in skill XY") to make a different experience.

we'll see what TFP come up with to flesh this one out. MM said there will be a new zombie, which can shread your base, which will be a new threat to the endgame.

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Performance is the big thing here. there are quite some limitations to a voxelgame. and to one with such nice graphics especially. just compare it to minecraft - 7 Days looks so much better. But it comes at a cost. and i get that you want to extend the lategame as atm there isn't much to to. that's why a frequently start over with a new save, a new world and new building ideas. new ruleset (sometimes rules that i just put on myself as "dont put any skillpoints in skill XY") to make a different experience.

we'll see what TFP come up with to flesh this one out. MM said there will be a new zombie, which can shread your base, which will be a new threat to the endgame.

 

Yeah but you can always add a another zombie with extra hitpoints and different behaviour..why not make it more interesting? and teh graphics isn't a problem because, like COD, their most basic settings runs on a Nvidia GT630 ..meaning high end players will still be getting the best part (like COD and Battlefield) and we live in a time with RTX and RX580 (and above) so imagine what graphics computing will look like in three years? even CPU's have made great progress especially after the bitcoin mining phase of 2018 (and even somewhat 2019) so second hand high performance cards are now readily available..this is the best time to go for gold (or reach for the stars ;)) ever. But that is just my opinion.

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And like, you were probably sarcastic but why not? rather than bashing on the creative process (as I said in another reply that I don't care what they implement as long as the game is going somewhere0 Just add ideas of what YOU would really want in the game.

 

Yes, exaggerated on purpose, but I genuinely wanted to see what you would say. Not even Subnautica has nitrogen narcosis!

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