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Let’s be honest then SylenThunder. What do you think is going to change when PC is complete? Since there is no date for PC to be complete, it is just left for each individual to find out. Since nothing has happened since 2018 some people might think maybe there is more info out there, just not posted. I know that nothing is going to ever change with the current version, but some people just getting 7D2D might still be optimistic. They might even buy into after PC is complete that TFP will do something for the current version of 7D2D. You point out every time the reasons that the update wont happen, with money being the top choice normally. Your “there is no new news” statement should have been the console version is done and finished. Yet you act like if and when PC is complete that TFP will then go back and update the current version. I’m just being blunt too, I suggested you close these forums down, because the majority of people come here after they get the game and have questions about any kind of update. I got the hint when you closed the bug report and tech support sections, but some people might not have understood that it is over. Unfortunately TellTale Games is gone, and since The Fun Pimps own the rights, I think it is fair for someone new to ask if anything has changed. Posting a link to a long ago closed thread, is going to lead to more questions. IMHO.

This is from the link that always gets posted. ‘The following console sections have been merged into [the General Discussion section]: Bug Reports General Support This should tell you all you need to know. TFP is happy to provide a place for those who are still playing the game to be able to meet up and talk about things they wish to discuss. Players can help each other out with tips and troubleshooting advice. However, there is no longer any official support or bug fixing going on because there are no planned updates for the current version.” ”this should tell you all you need to know” is the key line. Of course the last sentence of “no planned updates for the current version” is important too.

From the News and Announcements sticky. Since that thread it crazy long. This is the only important thing to read. The line of “this should tell you all you need to know” is the nice way of saying sorry but its over. “The following console sections have been merged into [the General Discussion section]: Bug Reports General Support This should tell you all you need to know. TFP is happy to provide a place for those who are still playing the game to be able to meet up and talk about things they wish to discuss. Players can help each other out with tips and troubleshooting advice. However, there is no longer any official support or bug fixing going on because there are no planned updates for the current version.” The current console version of 7D2D is done. Finished and even though The Fun Pimps bought the rights back to the console version after the TellTale Games auction. There is no money (profit) for a “free” update that was originally promised by TTG. TTG made the lions share of the money when it was released on console, so now it doesn’t make financial sense for TFP to spend money on an update that TTG talked about back in 2018. For the record I was all for a kickstarter, or even the idea of 7D2D being re-released. Unfortunately until PC goes gold, which I don’t even think TFP know when that is, there is no point in asking anything about the console version.

Totally agree, but unfortunately we are in limbo until the PC goes gold. But I agree that is when we will hear the current version out right now is dead. I hope when it goes gold they do re-release it for next gen console, but just come clean on the current version being dead. Or talk to us about costs, and lets talk about a kickstart run.

That has been mentioned, and someone already started a petition. Just look a few posts back. Sorry cannot remember who started it, but they gave them credit in the post. TFP have said, after PC goes gold, they might do something. Until PC goes gold or TFP change their stance, nothing is going to happen. There were pretty clear about when they started this thread.

Agreed it is a pipe dream. Of course we both know IG is capable of doing the port. They had a large sum of money to go after the rights for the TTG version. Why could I not assume they have the money to pay IG for the port? How many copies did 7D2D sell on initial release. Isnt is plausible that say 75-90% would buy a new and updated version? TTG didn’t sign up with TFP to not make money. So there is money to be made. I do like your theory for the door slightly open in hopes of another publisher giving it a run. For future release chances. I hope that isnt the reason. Would rather hear them say we cant do it, then that kind of lottery win. Every thing posted in this thread except the inital post is a pipe dream.

I think you are right, I think you misunderstood my position. As I think we both have the same opinion. I agree the current version is done, but TFP have not made that statement. I think they left the door open again, like maybe after gold they might do the update. آ“We are exploring all options that would eventually deliver a new version of 7 Days to consoles but this would likely happen after the PC version has gone gold and could end up being an entirely new product or on the next console.آ” That statement could mean the update happens or a new version on the next console after PC goes gold. Why not just say the current version is dead, and IF we move on it will be with a new release. Since there is no real time table for PC going gold. Or maybe I misunderstood their statement. I assume آ“eventually deliver a new versionآ” as the TTG update from 2018, vs آ“could end up being an entirely new productآ” as new release of 7D2D. At this point I believe the update is long dead 8-2-2019, and the new product could be a few years off. I think we are on the same page. I assume that IF TFP needed cash to finish PC the only real revenue source left to tap would be those who love the TTG version, but really wanted the bugs fixed. Of course extra content was always a bonus IMHO with the current hardware. Or wait until the next gen console to get it past Alpha 16 which is what the last update was suppose to contain. Maybe not full 16, but parts of it. Which from a business point of view is the obvious choice to pick. You said you thought the current console is dead. I just wanted to hear it from TFP. Does that clear things up?

I am a little confused. I am a glass half full person too. I am ready for the next version, The Fun Pimps version not TellTale Games. I just think talking about the update for this version (TTG) when it is pretty clear it isn’t going to happen isn’t being a half empty glass person. You are free to hope that the TTG update will come out after PC goes gold. So my half full part is the new version I am for the future on console, and if it isnt a direct continuation then they could have just said sorry the console version is dead. Rather then hoping and waiting for PC to go gold, with zero idea of when that might be. Once again only for the update TellTale version that TFP now own. I think we all agree it makes business sense to re-release a good game to get paid for your IP, vs free update for TTG version of 7D2D. That said I already said the TTG update is dead not going to happen. 8-2-2019. But my wallet is ready to spend some cash on the next version. Glass half full.

Preaching to the choir my friend. I read the PC side too and know, it will be ready when its ready. I agree 100% with what you say. I am only disappointed with TFP because they keep the sliver of hope alive for something that isnآ’t going to happen, on an update that was promised by TTG. Saying they might finish it after PC goes gold when they have zero idea of that date, is kind of pointless. Like I have said before it is total lip service. I wouldnآ’t want to upset PC or console players either, but at this point I think most common sense people see the writing on the wall. Which is why I have said for months now that the current console version is dead. I would pay for an update or a re-release. Which is why I think the only smart move left is to re-release the game and get paid like TTG did when they did the first 7D2D. I agree speculation is bad, but lets play out your scenario. Letآ’s say PC goes gold beginning 2022 (kind of in the middle of your two guesses). Do you honestly think that at that point they will go back do a free update for the console version they own from 2019? Which never got alpha I think 16 for sure 17/18 and the others that will be released before it goes gold??? I just flat donآ’t believe they will, when the option to re-release the game and get paid for the new version vs nothing for the free update. So why not just said sorry guys it isnآ’t going to happen and we are moving forward to plan for the next gen console version. Just some plain honestly. My scenario is slightly different. Holiday 2020 when the PS5 comes out. Sorry not sure on the Xbox. They release the new version of 7D2D and use that revenue stream to finish up the PC version to gold in 2022. But as we both agree total speculation on our parts. Unfortunately TFP said they might do something after they get the rights back. Wait, they did get the rights back, now we need to wait until PC goes gold. If TFP just said its over, wait for the next release for console then OK I move on. But now I cant because they gave out a sliver of hope again that if the stars align maybe just maybe they might finish that really cool update that was so close to being finished. With anyoneآ’s best guess as to when or even IF that might happen. I have been following this update since it was first posted by TTG. About 11 months before TFP had to break us the bad news of TTG. I think saying sorry guys we both got burned but we cannot do the update would have sucked, but we would have moved on by now. Now I wait following TFP to see if we get that update promised by TTG. While TFP never promised it, and I think it doesnآ’t make any business sense to do it. They are the ones who keep this whole update discussion going on, at least until PC goes gold. Sorry, I am odd and really read what people say, and tend to question things that dont make sense.

I disagree we would complain if they said they would be releasing the update TT was working on tomorrow. How do you figure their announcement was good news? Maybe if TFP had an idea of when PC was going gold, I could buy it was good news. At this point since they donآ’t know when PC is going gold, they have no idea of when they might look at doing that update. Plus it makes more sense to do a new release of a finished game, then going back to update a game version that isnآ’t anything like the current or finished version. Please tell me how آ“they have essentially said that it would be updatedآ”? What I read essentially said no update, and we will be releasing a new version of the game NOT an update. You know the zero console experience and costs that it takes to do an update part of the post for Console Update. Once again TFP have no idea of when this might happen. Of course I could be wrong. Please someone link the PC going gold date if there is one. I think most people are tired of being told the update might happen. It was supposed to happen in 2018. Now we are being told it will/might be done after some date in the future no one knows. Which is why I say 8-2-2019 RIP. Now two months later people still say they are still working on the console update. Time to come clean and move on please. For the record, TFP could have said NO to the console port. So while I agree TTG did the damage, that was a partner that TFP decided to trust with their IP. I might have to do some forums digging, but I am pretty sure there was mention of how IG helped do some debugging for console which was used to fix some PC issues. So yes it sucks but it wasnآ’t totally one sided. It takes two to tango. We both got burned by TTG, because if they hadnآ’t mentioned the update for 2018, we wouldnآ’t even be having this discussion. The simple facts are the money has been made for the current version of 7D2D. The cost of an update plus potential new revenue for the current version of 7D2D is nothing compared to a new release cost and potential new revenue. Pretty simple business, but in our PC world you cant say the wrong thing for fear it will make people complain. Since you said it essentially will be updated when do you think this might happen? Before or after holiday 2020?

That is why I thought Sylen’s comment about them still working on it was funny. I don’t think TFP know when they will be finished with the PC version. Telling us they might do something after PC goes gold when TFP don’t even know when that is, is like I said lip-service. When they said they had zero experience in console I was hoping they would say the current version is done. But no, now we are back with that same sliver of hope that maybe, just maybe sometime in the future they might go back and finish that almost complete really cool update for console. So we wait, still sticking with 8-2-2019 RIP, and now adding 7 Days to die 2 pre-order for Holiday 2020.

You might be right, but I am sticking by the 2020 PS 5 release. That will be the revenue stream that helps finish up PC going gold. I seriously doubt they will spend another dime to do anything for the TTG version they now own. Seems to me right now they could be working on the new unity engine and the hardware specs for the PS 5 for their version of 7D2D. That would give them at least a full year to get it ready for holiday 2020. Since we don’t see a balance sheet from TFP, I can only assume things. At some point they will need more money and it is pretty obvious that console would be an easy new revenue stream with a new release vs a free update.

ROTFLMAO. This is too funny. While I would agree their statement said they were still “working on this issue” They did preface it by saying that they were going to have PC go gold first. So Sylen, when is PC going to go gold??? From TFP videos I don’t think they even know when that is going to happen. So while they didn’t say it was the end, which I wish they would have said. It is pretty clear that there isn’t going to be a final update for the current version of console. Let’s look at the straight up facts. The revenue generated by TFP releasing their version of 7D2D for console will generate X times the revenue that an update would generate for the TTG version of 7D2D for console that TFP now own. So sorry, I am calling BS that they are still working on solving the TTG console version update. I think we can both agree that “still working on this issue” is lip service. PS5 is suppose to be out holiday 2020, and I bet money I will be able to buy the “new” version of 7D2D when I buy the PS5. 8-2-2019 RIP.

Wow, thanks for the update. I think we all knew it wasn’t financially going to happen for free. I hope that you might actually continue talking to the console section before the PC goes gold. Rather then the months of silence. You know get the pulse for how many of us would be willing to pay for DLC (update) for PS4 that Iron Galaxy was working on already. It has been said that the update was close to being finished. Maybe the cost of finishing that update could be offset by a kickstart/DLC option like the walking dead skins that TTG tried to offer. Since you have seen the numbers once already from the original sale of 7 days to die for console, re-releasing 7 days to die would due fairly well. I look forward to seeing it for PS5 next year.